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作者: littlekan23    时间: 2016-8-3 10:10:22     标题: 一篇关于007的文章(已译中文)

本帖最后由 littlekan23 于 2016-8-4 14:20 编辑

(转载)虽然是上年底的文章,但还是可以看看的,请学霸来翻译一下吧

里面提到的一句话,不知道是否属实,隐藏回复可看

原文:https://www.hodinkee.com/articles/the-seiko-skx007-divers-watch

Hello, 007. Today we’re going to take a look at what I’ve always assumed is another one of the worst-kept secrets in modern watchmaking: the Seiko Diver, model number SKX007. It’s probably the single best value at any price point, in an automatic watch that fits all the criteria of the infamous ISO 6425, which specifies the criteria for a watch to be able to call itself a diver’s watch (at least, in ISO member nations). Yes, it fits both the letter and the spirit of the law, but as with another worst-kept secret from Seiko – the incredible Seiko 5, which we looked at not long ago in our story “A $75 Watch That Looks Like A Million Bucks” – it ultimately manages to be so appealing on its own merits that the almost incredulity-inducing price is the least important aspect of the watch.


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The SKX007 may have a humble price but it is part of a proud lineage of diver’s watches that goes all the way back to 1965, when Seiko introduced the 150-meter-water-resistant reference 6217. Since then, Seiko has introduced a huge range of diver’s watches, ranging from the iconic ref. 6105, which was produced until 1977 (and is famous among movie watch enthusiasts for having been on Martin Sheen’s wrist inApocalypse Now) to its professional models, intended for use under very challenging conditions, including saturation diving. The latter category includes the very first watch to use titanium in its case – the 1975 600 meter Pro Diver. (The 1980 Porsche Design Titan Chronograph was the first wristwatch to offer a titanium case, and an integrated titanium bracelet.) Seiko’s dive watch offerings today include perhaps the most purely practical mechanical dive watch in existence, at least considered from a technical perspective. This is the Grand Seiko Spring Drive Diver, whose self-winding Spring Drive movement and power reserve indication ensure both a very high degree of accuracy (within one second per day) as well as the ability to check and make sure there’s enough power reserve to prevent the watch from running down in the middle of a dive. (For a more detailed history, check out this great story over on Monochrome.)


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SKX007’s immediate ancestor is the Seiko 7002, which it closely resembles, and it shares with SKX007 a water resistance rating of 200 m. It was produced until 1996, when it was finally replaced by the model you see here. SKX007 is also no longer in production but can be found on the secondary market, which is unfortunate as it represents the entry price point into the world of Seiko diver’s watches – as a matter of fact, it probably represents the entry price point into the world of genuine, ISO-compliant mechanical diver’s watches, period. (Rather amazingly, Seiko still hosts the PDF user’s manual for the 7002 on its website.)


SKX007 is an exercise in functional minimalism; there is absolutely nothing extraneous about any aspect of the watch. The case is a solid, heavy mass of stainless steel, though as with all Seikos, even at the entry level, it is exceedingly well made, with the rounded flanks rising gracefully to form the crown guards. The crown (for setting only, like the Seiko 5, the SKX007 can’t be hand-wound, but must be gently swung in the hand to wind the mainspring) is set at 4 o'clock, the better to keep it from pressing uncomfortably into the back of your wrist.


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The bezel rotates in half-minute increments, and this is one of the many places that this watch shows its quality despite its very low cost. The tip of the triangle (with its inset luminous pearl) always lines up exactly on the index mark (or exactly halfway between) and it’s quite fantastic to see that cost notwithstanding, Seiko has ensured the watch offers irreproachable functional precision where it counts. The dial is also unadorned, but functionally excellent, with large and very bright lume plots (Seiko dive watches are famously torch-bright in the dark) and the seconds hand has both an application of white paint on its body, and a dot of lume on its tail, the better to allow you to use it as a function check in low light situations. There are some who will take exception to the white date/day disks, but the use of white actually makes the dial more symmetrical, and enhances low light legibility to boot.


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The jubilee-style bracelet is, like the rest of the watch, functionally more than adequate. It rattles a bit, as is the case with the OEM bracelet for the Seiko 5 and quite a few owners like to experiment with different straps. Despite the occasional jingle-jangle, however, it’s actually quite comfortable, though it does not have a diver’s wetsuit extension (and you can hardly fault it for that, at the asking price, though if you dive with the watch a lot, you’ll probably want to put it on a long NATO or rubber strap).


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Inside is the caliber 7S26, and as we did with the Seiko 5, we refer you, if you’re interested, to a full technical analysis of the movement from John Davis, whose article on the 7S26 has never been bettered for accuracy or, well, depth. We’ll confine ourselves here to noting that the movement is notoriously bullet-proof, and that the Magic Lever winding system is both a very clever piece of engineering, and extremely efficient (the watch, when taken in the hand, begins to run almost immediately at the slightest movement).


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So here’s a true dive watch with wonderful functional excellence, and a connection to a great history – and the price? Pretty much any day of the week, you can find one for sale on Amazon for less than $170, which seems unbelievable, but it’s true. I can’t think of very many things horologically related, period, that are that inexpensive (okay, NATO straps and... I don’t know, spring bars, maybe) and absolutely nothing at this price point that is even remotely competitive. To get the same functional excellence, you would probably have to look at a G-Shock, and the latter, while a fantastic tool watch in its own right, is not ISO 6452-compliant. SKX007 has been for many years, and remains today, a rebuke to over-priced, over-decorated “luxury” dive watches everywhere – and a perennially fantastic Value Proposition.

For a more expensive ($675) but comparable version on the Seiko website, take a look at the Prospex Automatic SBDC001 here.






(以下为中文翻译,再次感谢民嫂亲自翻译,也为其专业知识点赞!)


Hello,007!

      今天我们要讨论的是我心目中现代制表业中最著名的秘密之一:精工潜水表,型号SKX007。作为一款自动手表,无论在哪个价格段,它都可能是最好的,它符合ISO6425的所有标准,这一标准是定义潜水表的唯一准则(至少在ISO成员国是这样的)。这款潜水表符合法律实质上和精神上的意义,但与精工出品的另一款名表-神奇的精工5一样,它们所展现的优越性能让人们觉得它们诱人的价格似乎是这款表最微弱的优势了。我们曾在不久之前的文章《75美金可以买到的“百万名表”》中讨论过精工5号这款表。

        价格低廉的SKX007系出名门,其厂牌生产潜水表的历史可以被追溯到1965年,当时精工推出了防水150米的潜水表6217。从那时起,精工出品了大量的潜水表,其产品线不仅有一直生产到1977年的标志性潜水表ref.6105(就是电影爱好者非常熟悉的马丁·辛在《现代启示录》中一直佩戴的那款潜水表)还有非常专业的在极端条件下包括饱和潜水的情况下使用的潜水表。其中就包括第一只在表壳中采用了钛合金金属的1975防水600米的专业潜水表(保时捷1980年推出的钛合金表是第一款采用了钛合金金属表壳和钛合金表带的腕表。)。

       至少从技术层面上来看,精工出品了最具有实用价值的机械潜水表。这是精工Grand Seiko系列潜水表,自动上发条的弹簧驱动运动和动力储存功能确保其保持较高的精确度(每天误差一秒以内)以及检查并确保有足够的电力储备以防止手表在潜水过程中停止运行的能力。(更多历史故事,尽在在Monochrome)

        SKX007的前身是精工7002,两者有很多相似之处,它和SKX007水阻力等级都是200米,7002一直生产到1996年,直到被你在这里看到的SKX007所取代。SKX007已经停产,但仍可以在二手市场上找到。这是不幸的,因为它代表了精工潜水表的入门级价格——事实上,它可能代表了世界ISO标准机械潜水表的入门级价格。(而令人惊讶的是,精工仍然将 7002的用户手册保留在在其网站上)。

        SKX007是一款功能极简主义的代表作,绝对没有多余的附加功能。坚固有质感的不锈钢表壳,在精工出品的手表中,即使是入门级,它的做工也相当精致,圆形的侧翼优雅地形成表冠护肩。表冠(仅用于设置,如精工5一样,SKX007不能手动上链而必须靠手的摇摆运动作为其主要动力)设置在4点钟方向,更好的避免手腕被压迫不适的现象。

        半分钟的增量旋转表圈这款手表展示其低成本高质量的众多细节之一。三角形的尖端(珍珠色夜光)正好对着指数(或正中间),很神奇的是,虽然保证了成本,精工手表提供无可挑剔的精度。表盘朴实无华,但功能,有着大而亮的表盘(精工潜水表在黑暗中是出了名的如火炬般明亮)而且秒针头尾都涂上了白漆,更好的让您在低光情况下进行功能检查。虽然有些人会对此表示异议,但使用白色实际上使表盘更对称,也提高了低光条件下的易读性。

        银禧风格的表带,跟这款表的其他部分一样实用。它会略微产生一点声音,与精工5的OEM表带不同,也有相当部分人喜欢体验不同的表带。尽管偶尔有丁零当啷的响声,但真的很舒服,虽然它没有潜水服扩展功能(但相对于其价格而言这也无可厚非,但如果你经常带着它潜水,你可能会想给它配上一条长的尼龙或橡胶表带)。

        搭载的是7S26机芯,像之前精工5一样,我们建议您如果感兴趣的话可以去看一下约翰 李维斯的关于7S26机芯技术分析的文章,无论准确度或是深度方面他的研究都是一流的。在这里我们只讨论一个问题:运动是一直存在的,而神奇的杠杆上弦系统是工程学的杰作,运行非常高效(当手表戴在手腕上时,能立即捕捉到几乎时最轻微的运动)。

        因此,这是一个具有真正功能的潜水表,同时也有着悠久的历史和诱人的价格。几乎在一周里的任何一天,你都可以在在亚马逊上找到价格不到170美元的这款手表,这似乎是令人难以置信的,但却是真的。我不认为钟表类的东西应该如此廉价(好吧,尼龙带…我不知道,表耳?也许是吧)这个价格是极具绝对竞争力的。要得到同样的功能,可能只有G-SHOCK可以一拼,但后者作为一个工具表是不符合ISO 6452标准的。skx007已经流行多年,时至今日,这对于定价过高,过度装饰的“豪华”潜水表不得不说是一种讽刺,这,也是一道永恒的价值命题。


作者:JACK FORSTER

翻译:民嫂








作者: 爱在民大    时间: 2016-8-3 10:12:32

我已经把链接发给我老婆了
作者: Justin陶    时间: 2016-8-3 10:38:31

坐等翻译过来的
作者: littlekan23    时间: 2016-8-3 11:02:12

爱在民大 发表于 2016-8-3 10:12
我已经把链接发给我老婆了

嫂子是学霸?羡慕啊
作者: foolishfly    时间: 2016-8-3 11:55:42

爱在民大 发表于 2016-8-3 10:12
我已经把链接发给我老婆了

专8的老婆?   那你可hold住吗?
作者: 不下水的潜水表    时间: 2016-8-3 14:01:38

什么呀!
作者: teaman2004    时间: 2016-8-3 14:18:07

回復看文章
作者: yiii    时间: 2016-8-3 14:29:16

007要停产?这可是大新闻,买买买,赶紧买,坐等007升值[s:90]
作者: littlekan23    时间: 2016-8-3 14:48:39

yiii 发表于 2016-8-3 14:29
007要停产?这可是大新闻,买买买,赶紧买,坐等007升值

原来yiii版也是学霸,这消息也不一定属实,因为官方也没有说过任何情况,不过就算是这样官方也不会说……
作者: morstar    时间: 2016-8-3 15:01:12

好网站!去学习了
作者: 猪88戒    时间: 2016-8-3 15:02:51

[s:98]
作者: 523566395    时间: 2016-8-3 15:16:55

需要一波翻译大神
作者: 岩武    时间: 2016-8-3 15:17:56

爱在民大 发表于 2016-8-3 10:12
我已经把链接发给我老婆了

民大大,已经五个小时了,嫂嫂还没翻译出来啊
作者: yiii    时间: 2016-8-3 15:22:02

littlekan23 发表于 2016-8-3 14:48
原来yiii版也是学霸,这消息也不一定属实,因为官方也没有说过任何情况,不过就算是这样官方也不会说……

有停产的可能性
作者: 爱在民大    时间: 2016-8-3 15:44:49

岩武 发表于 2016-8-3 15:17
民大大,已经五个小时了,嫂嫂还没翻译出来啊

今晚回去问她,我怀疑她压根没有理我。。哈哈。。
作者: 南方姑娘    时间: 2016-8-3 16:13:43

嘻嘻  好多日本语言哦  我看都看不懂哦
作者: junecho    时间: 2016-8-3 16:14:45

太长了,看不下去
作者: junecho    时间: 2016-8-3 16:16:53

爱在民大 发表于 2016-8-3 15:44
今晚回去问她,我怀疑她压根没有理我。。哈哈。。

你要发个卡地亚,就理你啦
作者: 爱在民大    时间: 2016-8-3 16:29:34

junecho 发表于 2016-8-3 16:16
你要发个卡地亚,就理你啦

我刚才问她了,她说今晚再弄:a16我觉得我在家里越来越没有地位了。。
作者: 实语    时间: 2016-8-3 16:48:48

求中文翻译
作者: LAZYBB    时间: 2016-8-3 18:45:23

最值得玩的入门经典潜水表
作者: 阿冰    时间: 2016-8-3 20:47:59

看看内容!
作者: kongmichen    时间: 2016-8-3 21:10:12

欣赏欣赏欣赏欣赏欣赏
作者: 月人家    时间: 2016-8-3 21:54:12

停产的事不是早就说了吗
作者: 月人家    时间: 2016-8-3 21:54:51

有很多HK店家已经没有007销售了
作者: 爱在民大    时间: 2016-8-3 22:08:01

OK,翻译好了。。
作者: qwe12345    时间: 2016-8-3 23:15:09

爱在民大 发表于 2016-08-03 22:08 OK,翻译好了。。...
;P学霸家庭
作者: yiii    时间: 2016-8-4 08:45:51

爱在民大 发表于 2016-8-3 10:12
我已经把链接发给我老婆了

感谢翻译,真是家有贤妻啊:a23
作者: Taikoeyework    时间: 2016-8-4 09:44:27

就是不知道007系列新版本什么時候出
作者: littlekan23    时间: 2016-8-4 10:43:15

爱在民大 发表于 2016-8-3 22:08
OK,翻译好了。。

谢谢民大
作者: Lemmy    时间: 2016-8-4 11:11:09

观点客观。007确实不错,抓紧收橙色的
作者: 不下水的潜水表    时间: 2016-8-5 07:28:39

爱在民大 发表于 2016-8-3 16:29
我刚才问她了,她说今晚再弄我觉得我在家里越来越没有地位了。。

侍候好点就行了。。。
作者: 不下水的潜水表    时间: 2016-8-5 07:29:38

skx007已经流行多年,时至今日,这对于定价过高,过度装饰的“豪华”潜水表不得不说是一种讽刺,这,也是一道永恒的价值命题。

此论点大赞。
作者: 不下水的潜水表    时间: 2016-8-5 07:31:04

文中提到的约翰 李维斯对7s26的分析文章怎么能找到?有知道的吗?
作者: lzk1516    时间: 2016-8-5 08:59:48

民嫂威武!
作者: r2ttlop    时间: 2016-8-5 09:03:58

非常好,多谢分享
作者: foolishfly    时间: 2016-8-5 09:04:33

民大,换你老婆来做版主吧[s:116]
作者: 琳州笑笑生    时间: 2016-8-5 09:04:53

如果您要查看本帖隐藏内容请回复
作者: iceriver1229    时间: 2016-8-5 09:43:14

007这个价位,这样的做工质量,的确没话说了。7S26机芯虽然低档,但感觉很可靠也很稳定,上链效率高(也可能是我人品好,手上这块007的精度很高,目前每月才几秒的误差,甚至比某些石英表还精准)。
作者: Yolo~    时间: 2016-8-5 10:41:56

民嫂学霸,好羡慕
作者: 不下水的潜水表    时间: 2016-8-5 12:37:09

本帖最后由 不下水的潜水表 于 2016-8-5 12:38 编辑

“水阻力”译为防水或耐水压更符合国人的习惯用语。爱版把弟妹手机号告诉我,我想和她交流交流。
作者: 不下水的潜水表    时间: 2016-8-5 12:46:17

本帖最后由 不下水的潜水表 于 2016-8-5 13:00 编辑

“自动上发条的弹簧驱动。。。。”简称为SD更明了。
作者: lifebigboom    时间: 2016-8-5 14:42:53

看看什么内容

作者: jum1687    时间: 2016-8-5 14:52:27

似懂非懂DSA
作者: jum1687    时间: 2016-8-5 15:36:04

是想把007二手价炒高的节凑吗?
作者: littlekan23    时间: 2016-8-9 13:04:25

不下水的潜水表 发表于 2016-8-5 07:31
文中提到的约翰 李维斯对7s26的分析文章怎么能找到?有知道的吗?

The Seiko Diver's 200 Meter SKX779  Featuring the 7S26 Automatic Movement
我转过来了,哥你帮忙翻译一下吧
作者: 不下水的潜水表    时间: 2016-8-9 13:32:21

littlekan23 发表于 2016-8-9 13:04
The Seiko Diver's 200 Meter SKX779  Featuring the 7S26 Automatic Movement
我转过来了,哥你帮忙翻译 ...

来,接力,我第一棒!
作者: 夜行小神龙    时间: 2016-8-9 14:41:35

看看
作者: janas    时间: 2016-8-9 22:28:37

真的假的,不过还是先谢了

作者: ruverscar    时间: 2016-8-14 21:06:11

赞民嫂!
作者: sumkenny    时间: 2016-8-15 16:01:09

这个必须顶,007是精工的精华
作者: qqa_g    时间: 2017-6-5 14:03:09

007真心不错。

作者: xiangzi2009    时间: 2017-6-16 11:25:01

进来看看
作者: diablowjx    时间: 2017-9-3 15:01:04

看看!!看看!!
作者: ZITIZEN电波    时间: 2017-9-3 21:41:49

看了。真的好
作者: 虚弱哥    时间: 2018-7-17 10:26:16

11111111111111111111111111
作者: rinzaki    时间: 2018-11-26 20:55:19


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