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Rolex Oyster Perpetual, Model Ref 6085

Swiss Hallmarked 14ct Solid Yellow Gold Rolex Oyster Case

High Grade Cal.10½” A269, 19 Jewel Chronometer Automatic Movement

34mm Diameter Case, Excluding the Original Rolex Oyster Screw-Down Crown

Description

Rolex Oyster Perpetual Bubblebacks draw their name from the bulbous case-back designed to accommodate Rolex’ early Calibre 10½” A269 automatic movement and rotor. The movements were deeper on the earlier Oyster Perpetuals, produced between 1950 and circa 1954, and these are popularly known as the large, or big Bubblebacks, as these watches had a 34mm Oyster case, as opposed to the ‘small’ Rolex Bubblebacks with a 32mm case, produced between 1934 and 1950.

We have here a classic Rolex Oyster Perpetual ‘Large’ Bubbleback, with a charming ivory cream dial with ‘Pencil’ hour indices and original Dauphine hands. This is Rolex model reference 6085 with the Calibre 10½” A269 automatic movement. This watch case has the sought after plain bezel, which along with the rest of the case, is in wonderful condition.

This watch is in amazing condition throughout and is the classic Rolex timepiece, perfectly suited for all occasions and also for everyday use.

This watch has been fully restored by ourselves, and is therefore in wonderful condition and now ready for many more years of faithful service!

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The Dial

The original ivory cream dial looks superb with original Dauphine hands and faceted applied ‘Pencil’ hour indices, giving a very classic appearance to the watch. The hands have also been beautifully restored and are in immaculate condition, matching the dial, case and movement.

The dial is a model of Rolex 1950s elegance and simplicity. The absence of a date function contributes to a perfectly balanced dial, crowned of course with the perennial Rolex ‘Coronet’ at 12 o’clock. In addition to the Rolex signature ‘Coronet’, the dial is simply signed ‘Rolex’, ‘Oyster Perpetual’ and ‘Officially Certified Chronometer’ with ‘Swiss,’ at the very bottom of the dial.

A new correct replacement Rolex lens has been fitted and therefore has no marks or scratches.

This is the original Rolex dial which has been restored to the very highest standards by the best dial restorers in the UK.

The Case

The original, Swiss hallmarked 14ct yellow gold case measures 34mm in diameter, not including the crown. This is the Rolex model reference 6085  Bubbleback case with the sought after plain bezel, which just like the rest of the case – the sides, lugs and case-back – is in superb condition. The case-back in particular is in beautiful condition and has never been engraved or damaged. The Bubbleback is so called due to the bulbous round back needed to accommodate the early automatic movement and rotor which was a little too large for the later standard flat back case when it was first introduced.

The case has been professionally cleaned and lightly polished and is looking superb. Inside the case-back all is correct and as expected, Signed, of course, with the beautifully ornate early Rolex branding, along with ROLEX PATENTED 6085, two Swiss 14ct hallmarks and 0.585-14K.

Please note, as part of the restoration we have replaced all the rubber seals on the case-back and the winding crown and stem tube. However, although the watch was specified as waterproof when new, this has not been tested and it is not guaranteed. Our standard advice applies: Vintage watches should be kept clean and dry at all times.

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The Movement

The original high grade, Rolex Calibre 10½ ” A269, 19 Jewel automatic movement is running perfectly following a complete overhaul and service by our vintage Rolex specialist watchmaker. This involves completely dismantling the movement to all its component parts, close examination under high magnification, then using only genuine Rolex replacement parts where required, careful reassembly and lubrication using Rolex specified lubricants.

This particular movement is sparkling clean and winds, sets and runs perfectly, just as it should. When finally tested following its overhaul, this watch was found to be keeping superb time to within +9 seconds per day! This is outstanding for any watch of this age. We are therefore highly confident in offering this watch with a 12-month warranty on the movement* and we will also be very happy to assist you with competitively priced servicing in the future.

These Chronometer grade movements are very strong, very accurate and very reliable making this watch perfectly suitable for both evening wear and everyday use. This movement is in superb, sparkling clean, A1 condition and with regular servicing, say every 3 – 4 years, we would fully expect this watch to run happily another lifetime!

The movement is correctly signed: Rolex Perpetual Chronometer, Swiss Made, ‘SWISS’, with the reference number F62871.


Box and Papers

Although there are no original papers with the watch, the numbers and markings are all correct, dating this watch to 1955.

The Strap & Buckle

A new, high-quality tan Lizard strap has been fitted, along with a matching gold plated Rolex buckle.

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Calibre 10½” A269,这款机芯的参数我始终没找到相关资料，有熟知这款机芯详细参数的朋友吗？

88dl88

这里百分之九十九点九九的坛友都看不懂，哈哈

pear

这枚棺材仔有可疑，机芯估计是百鸟归巢的拼装，
最重要是表冠不对号，195X的棺材仔表冠不是这款式，
就算在今天，皇冠下一杆只是全钢或金钢，不是全金。
而且，卖家很落力，找了个80年代的表盒，骗暴发户还可。

pear

最后一段英语是描述表带，皮带当然不可能原庄，
但皮带扣是gold plated(镀金)而不是14K solid gold，
证明这是拼装，单单这点便可砍1万元。
请再留意表冠，这是80年代金银润DJ的18K表冠，
它根本旋不进表壳，而且色调格格不入。

Sacoc

这种是Frankenstein拼装表。价值不可能超过RMB8500。
表冠很糟糕，它应该不是旋入式的，可是却用了旋入式表冠。

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Sacoc 发表于 2020-5-8 02:21
这种是Frankenstein拼装表。价值不可能超过RMB8500。
表冠很糟糕，它应该不是旋入式的，可是却用了旋入式表 ...

感谢答疑，谢谢兄弟

xhans

找个翻译软件或者用chrome浏览器，就能看懂了，我觉得这个二手商还是挺负责的，至少表面看起来是这样，什么东西是后配的，人家都说得挺明白的，表冠，表镜，皮带，表扣都是后配的，他们还提供12个月的保养。还说机芯全部拆解检修和修理，需要换的零件仅用原装劳力士原件。包装和证书都没了，但是机芯可追逆到1955年什么的。

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xhans 发表于 2020-5-8 12:12
找个翻译软件或者用chrome浏览器，就能看懂了，我觉得这个二手商还是挺负责的，至少表面看起来是这样，什么 ...

没错，这家英国的二手商比国内很多贩子靠谱得多

pear

Sacoc 发表于 2020-5-8 02:21
这种是Frankenstein拼装表。价值不可能超过RMB8500。
表冠很糟糕，它应该不是旋入式的，可是却用了旋入式表 ...

不是！6085是蚝式手表，表冠是旋入式，当年的表冠是这样。

pear

在雲那一方 发表于 2020-5-8 12:26
没错，这家英国的二手商比国内很多贩子靠谱得多

从这帧相片就跟重新组装翻新的描述不符了，机芯的污渍很糟糕，像从垃圾堆捡回来的，跟表身不匹配。

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pear 发表于 2020-5-8 12:46
从这帧相片就跟重新组装翻新的描述不符了，机芯的污渍很糟糕，像从垃圾堆捡回来的，跟表身不匹配。

已经放弃购买了，英国店家报价4950欧

pear

在雲那一方 发表于 2020-5-8 14:10
已经放弃购买了，英国店家报价4950欧

明智决定！半价也不值。

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pear 发表于 2020-5-8 14:22
明智决定！半价也不值。

我很喜欢这个壳面针，尤其是立体太妃指针，切里尼系列如果按这个设计复刻，我一定买。

pear

在雲那一方 发表于 2020-5-8 17:33
我很喜欢这个壳面针，尤其是立体太妃指针，切里尼系列如果按这个设计复刻，我一定买。

这型号香港俗称棺材仔，不难找，
品相好的都是3万左右，但这题的字盘较缺。

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pear 发表于 2020-5-8 19:34
这型号香港俗称棺材仔，不难找，
品相好的都是3万左右，但这题的字盘较缺。

感谢~